Upon reading what Me from my previous post send me on a person who actually got audio footage of the JYPE conference. After reading what that person has wrote, I guess you can say I’ll still be a fan and honestly, I still care for the members perhaps they lost their temper at a lot of fans or they are actually moving on without Jay and forgetting about him but who’s to believe? It’s the internet! People can twist things up unless it’s from the official person themselves.
That’s why Jay, if your reading all the nonsense going on, I and many sane fans would really appreciate a video message to clear things up whether it’s next month or in April when 2PM comeback.
Wouldn’t it be clever like Ellie said, if JYPE just said Jay wanted to go back to being a normal person in Seattle instead of telling us that something worse than the Myspace incident had happened? Seriously, they just twisted the insane fans now to go crazy.
And plus, all these comments from so called fans who were giving up on them like I almost did:
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First box (Family Outing 2)
5874: Ok Taecyeon, are you having fun right now
5873: 2PM fans bombarding the message board, restrain yourself!!!!!!!!!!…
5872: I request Ok Taecyeon to leave
5871: I demand Ok Taecyeon to leave.
5870: What kind of program is this hahahahahaha
5869: Try leading one more time
5968: I demand Ok Taeyeon to leave.
5966: I demand Ok Taecyeon to leave.
5965: I demand Ok Taecyeon to leave.
5864: Demand Ok Taecyeon to leave.
5863: I demand Taecyeon to leave.
5862: I demand Taecyeon to leave.
5861: Don’t say Taecyeon is fake.
5867: (response to 5861) Restrain yourself even though you might be angry… Come back to normal…
5860: I demand Ok Taecyeon to leave.
Second box (Seung Seung Jang Goo)
4025: I demand Jang Wooyoung to leave.
4024: Stop it acting like elementary school students.
4023: I demand Jang Wooyoung to leave.
4020: Jaebum and Wooyoung, I love you.
4018: Don’t you feel bad about this show? Stop terrorizing it.
4011: Cheer up Wooyoung.. Fighting!!!!
4004: What’s wrong with you people who are leave messages here about wanting Wooyoung to leave? You do this and you still call yourself a fan of Park Jaebum? It’s embarrassing.
4022: (response to 4004) hahaha
4027: (response to 4004) You have a brain so think and live.
4003: Gosh, Could you six members leave JYP too?
Third box (Inkigayo)
824350: [to the producers] I demand 2PM’s Ok Taecyeon and Jang Wooyoung to leave
824349: [to the producers] I demand MCs Ok Taeyeon and Jang Wooyoung to leave!!!!
824348: [to the producers] Now stop
824347: [to the producers] I demand MCs Ok Taecyeon and Jang Wooyoung, who betrayed their family member, to leave…
824346: Fake ripping Taecyeon… pretending Wooyoung.. please leave..
824345: [to the producers] I demand MCs Ok Taecyeon and Jang Wooyoung, who betrayed their family member, to leave…
824344: [to the producers] Let’s stop now, even sadder than you…
824343: [to the producers] I demand MCs Ok Taecyeon and Jang Wooyoung, who betrayed their family member, to leave…
824342: [to the producers] I demand the MCs to leave…
Chill out and listen to Ellie.
I’m completely confused as to what to do about the group. I really am, I read the translation that fourtyninepointfive did but something still irks me about them, I don’t know what, the thing is we can’t see thier facial expressions and I really doubt many people would have made up Taecyeon and Chansung’s rude “stances” and whatnot, but I agree that we don’t know a lot yet and only those there can give us an accurate account of what occurred.
But there’s also talk of how JYPE is starting to do damage control by releasing “sympathy articles” about the rest of the members, so I’m avoiding all those as to not hinder my resolve but I think I’m through with them anyway. It’s emotionally exhausting being involved. It really is.
If you want after you come back from J-Pop, maybe come back to 2PM in April when they comeback.
Hopefully they’ll still have good music =3 I’m definitely not through with their music
But Ale, if you have listened to the audio (even if you can or can’t understand Korean) you MUST admit that the fans themselves were being extremely rude. They continuously made snide parenthetical comments & shouting out while the members were responding to THEIR questions, as if they did not believe what the members were saying. How then, can anyone determinedly accept what these “fans” who attended the conference are reporting back. How can we be so sure they are telling the unbiased truth, and not just how they, in their anger, perceived the conference.
These so called fans make sure to emphasize how “rude” the 2pm members were, but they neglect to mention how rude and impolitely they were addressing the members, using very informal language (in Korean).
Honestly, can you really not believe that fans would make up or rather, exaggerate the stances of Taecyeon and Chansung. You probably know exactly how vicious netizens can be; you know what fans are capable of. It’s not accurate to say that only the people in attendance are the best sources, because the majority of the fans who went had already decided they hated 2pm w/o Jaebum ://
I don’t deny there was rudeness on the fans’ side but there was also this coldness to 2PM’s side, but I do understand that they were put in a very hostile situation though and they are human so they’re going to react in a normal way and get frustrated.
But even then we weren’t there. We don’t know what their facial expressions were or body language, I know I’m contradicting myself but it’s just because I want both sides of the story and when I try to balance it all out, I’m not satisfied.
I’m over it by now, but I just need a little break from them.
I support 2PM but then the poll stated 1.59PM. Right now AKP also do the transcribe and translating the PC.
http://www.allkpop.com/2010/03/transcript-of-jypes-conference-about-2pm-jaebeom-pt-1
Mad props to translator that endure to do it. Let’s see how 2OD come out with it.
I…still can’t call them 2PM just yet. Give me a moment.
Yeah, I still need to read it actually.
i agree with ellie that boys going for girls, drinking, clubbing, etc. are normal… it’s ok… it’s no reason for you to stop liking the 6 just bec. of that… so i think to be or not to be a fan will be based on why you liked them in the first place…
i personally liked them because of their brotherhood… and because they weren’t able to stand up for their brother, that made me stop being a fan all together… the brotherhood is broken and there’s nothing to like anymore…
bumvirus wrote about brotherhood here and it’s really nice >> http://bumvirus.livejournal.com/6202.html#cutid1
I think what some ppl haven’t considered is that Jay may not be able to speak out even if he wanted to. His early contract termination fine was waved. He doesn’t have to repay jype of his tuition fees (4 years worth). why? I doubt jype are THAT charitable. also ppl should look into the past at controversies that Shinhwa and G.O.D. had with their companies. they’ve moved on, yet still they have not come out to speak against their ex-companies or even to clear things up. And I bet we will see the same wall of silence from SuJu and DBSK after issues with their members’ contracts have been settled.
I still think he should even if it’s a video message from his room or something. Even if the company don’t let him, I’d like him to try and calm down the Hott…I mean Coldest who have gone psycho.
That is true through out this whole thing Jaebeom remains so silent.Only he can answer why he confess to something that pretty much end his career.That irritates me on how he can be so silent while fans base blames 2pm.
I know most people have channel their anger to Taecyeon and Wooyoung because they were the most vocal during the conference.In a way they sorta step up to the plate.
I understand the reasoning why Jaebeom had to leave or was terminated. This was a business decision made by JYP which 2pm on that note agree on.Personally I can see why they want to remain friends.In K-pop people forget this is an industry that still have strict rules that require better conduct.You can still lose your contract base on poor conduct.That the record label has to make the best business decision even if people personally or emotional are in a disagreement.
I do admit the way JYP handle this made the situation a hot freaking mess.I still support 2pm but I don’t see Jaebeom as a victim.Everyone played a role in this and his was extremely important.
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