credit to: 2ONEDAY and Eurice, member of 2ONEDAY.
Fame seems to have changed the 2PM members.
This quote sums up everything for me:
“One person was able to save six members, but how could six members not be able to save one.” – CREDITS : DAUM (SOURCE) ; hazyfiasco@2ONEDAY.COM
Ellie gives a better opinion on Jaebeom that I do.
Thank you Eurice, a member of 2ONEDAY who is currently in Korea and went to the JYPE press conference. She (I assume) has opened my eyes to what 2PM 1:59PM are really like and what I believed for the past what…? 9-10 months that they were fake. I’m not becoming an anti, forget what I wrote.
Now what you are about to read is the honest truth from Eurice’s posts on 2ONEDAY. And if any of the Hottest at 2ONEDAY have read from the information she provided, they will know how I feel.
And I’m going to be honest when I say after reading this, you may still support 1:59PM or no longer be a hardcore fan. If you are a fan of them still, then try to ignore my additional comments because they do get harsher as they go on though this is only to do with a few members at the conference who went TOO far.
I myself can’t even call them 2PM anymore. They are 1:59PM to me. And hearing all the stuff that Eunice posted to 2ONEDAY just gave me a bad vibe about those members. It’s like underneath the sadness and tears, they don’t really care about Jay. I’m hoping that’s not really true. ¬_¬
“Hwang Chansung
“Do we have to go on public TV and say that we want Park Jaebum back?” (Not Jaebum hyung, but Park Jaebum)
“Do we have to make a complaining battle about this then?”
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Fan: “Okay try to succeed as 6 members then”
Ok Taecyeon: “We will do the best that we can so that we can be proud dongsaengs to Jaebum hyung”
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Fan: “The hottests have said to change your fandom name since you are no longer 7″
Jung Wook: “That is the same as telling 2PM do not continue with their activities, so we will not answer your question”
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Fan: “Why did the company not protect Jaebum?”
Jungwook: “Why didn’t the fans shield him then” (After he said this, it exploded)
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Fan: “I’m not curious about the personal mistake but why aren’t you protecting him and forgiving him?”
Answer: “The mistake is so big that we can’t even shield or forgive him”Lee Junho and Hwang Chansung expressed their feelings and cried.
They didn’t cry after talking about Park Jaebum, but cried after saying their own emotions.
They said a new leader has not been appointed yet.
I am so lost for words that I can’t even type this up properly.
All this time we have been fooled by these lumps of fakes.
This may just be the most regretful period of my life. For liking those ******* so much.
All the other stuff you’ve read are rumors.
This is what I heard from someone who was in the conference.
I am saying this with utmost confidence that what I’ve said is true.
I am no longer going to say that I feel sorry for the members… this is just unbelievable.
They said not to doubt the friendship of the 7 members… That is just…. far out.”
Even though she reports some of these as rumors, the first line from Chansung really bothers me. AS if he is deeply irritated by what people expect. No asked him to say that, he seems to be complaining about nothing. Only the fans have said they want him back.
“Hahahaha I’m going crazy.
My friend knows a lot of acquaintances that went to the conference…
I just got off the phone with her……..I really don’t want to believe her.
Ok Taecyeon……….. SNIGGERED AT THEM, she said he sniggered at the fans a lot
Everytime a question was asked he would snigger hahaha I am just lost for words
I guess they were pretending the whole time. It wasn’t JYP that backstabbed him it was the members.
My whole body is just shaking of shock right now all that’s coming out of me are laughs.
You don’t believe it right? I don’t believe it too, this isn’t a rumor I am 100% sure on this, my friend is not the person to lie honestly
I am honestly turning anti now
I am so stupid for believing the members haha
I’m regretting spending so much money for JYP lol
She said Ok Taecyeon and Hwang Chansung got REALLY ANGRY at the fans
Everyone always said beast idol this beast idol that, I guess they really do think they’re beasts now hahaha
We believed in them so much
I guess we shouldn’t have believed them, if there was any loyalty then all 6 of them would’ve withdrawn
I honestly thought my attachment to them would last forever
But as I was on the phone with my friend, my affection for them were just dripping down the drain just like that.
I am honestly not lying, I also want to believe this is a lie.
I kept checking if she was lying, I kept saying to my friend “Really? Really?? You’re lying…”
Honestly for 20 minutes I didn’t believe her
This friend was more of a hardcore hottest than me, so I can’t do anything but believe her, she’s also my class friend.
My friend talked to the unnie over the phone too,
But because of the current situation, she couldn’t get the full details and had to hang up.
This honestly is no lie.
I’m not even getting tears now.
I trusted in the members so much…. We were stupid to believe them.
I couldn’t believe her that I thought maybe JYPE was getting them to act so I asked her if it looked like they looked forced,
She said they looked so real about it, she said it was definitely not acting.
We’ve watched all their TV shows over and over again, so we would know whether or not they’re acting or being real…
Let’s not cry or be depressed, let’s just give them the same response.
I told myself I wouldn’t cuss but I did so I’m sorry, if there’s anything you want to ask then leave a comment.
I will tell you everything I know
I will say this again, I’m really not lying, I’m being honest.+
She said Khun pretty much did not say anything… I’m not fully sure about this and so isn’t my friend.
We’re waiting for that unni to ring again, I’ll be staring at my phone until my neck breaks off”
Taecyeon, it’s amazing how popular you’ve become after tearing up your shirts just like…Jay! ¬_¬ No surprise. And now, you’re losing popularity even more by sniggering at the fans and getting angry at the fans, you guys are actually beasts. Apparently, Nichkhun was the only one who was against him leaving and seems to be the least suspicious and more cautious among the members. Doesn’t mean he’s innocent in my eyes though.
“From now on I will throw away being a hottest and return back to my daily life, and will be waiting for the day JYPE regrets. I will no longer be a follower, I’m sorry for leaving once I write up this account.
First off at around 3.10PM we got in and filled up the rows, from row 1 to row 8..
They were going to start off until someone’s handphone went off and we were all told to turn off our phones, and when they saw anyone texting or fiddling with their phones it got confiscated.
There was a rumor going around that someone got told to leave, but there was no one person who did so.
The member’s expressions were unexpectedly calm.
I’ll be writing out the full account by 10PM anyway so for now I will write up roughly what had happened.1. When asked if the members agreed to the Jaebum’s withdrawal, without hesitation they answered with “Yes”.
2. When they said ‘From now on please support us as “as 6 members”‘, my blood pressure went up so high that my vision went yellow.
3. Someone from the official fancafe asked about their next album’s concept and their direction of their activities, and if each member was going to go on variety shows.
Us and Underground and some other fancafe members were all wanting to take her down for that… It got us so angry…4. Someone from the official fancafe asked “Has there ever been a time when you received hurt from Park Jaebum’s bad personal life”, and the mood from the members went pungent and so did the fans… Punches were about to fly everywhere.
I don’t know if it’s because Taecyeon was mad or not but he kept clenching his jaw… I saw the clenching of his jaw at the side of face with my own eyes… After that question, Taecyeon’s facial expression was not good.
5. They kept saying “Us 6 members” over and over again right until the very end… and from that I got a hunch… I guess they really will continue on with six….
After this reply it got so loud that I couldn’t really hear the questions properly and couldn’t hear the members’ answers properly. I will end it here.
Lastly I will say it again. I will return back to my normal life after I write this.”
But I really want to punch Taecyeon and Chansung for this:
All 6 members turned up
Ok Taecyeon said that Jaebums personal life has been dirty anyway.
Junsu said that he can’t say what it is.So why Jaebum go out to those BBOY events?
Chansung ‘Exactly. Why’s he showing his face so much. Anyway, I don’t know the reason.’
Taecyeon: ‘Jaebum hyung’s personal life is very bad.’
Overall, I do not know what to say about 2PM 1:59PM right now. It’s shocking how they responded to some of these comments and even shocking that is how the conference or as quote from Eurice said, a ‘chaotic battlefield’ took place.
Too bad a lot of their fansites have been closed down and protected pictures that Hottest save have been released. And there is so much more information on 2ONEDAY being posted out if you want to know more.
But from now on, I’m turning away from 1:59PM and going to renew my list as: Dong Bang Shin Ki, SHINee, BEAST I’m not completely sure what to do, I still have hope for something good to happen to 1:59PM. I can honestly say that I am in the wrong for only hearing it from one side of this view and also being biased to JYP groups but reading all this is giving me a headache. I can’t even understand the other sides view because for one, it’s confidential and two, all I see from their side is that 1:59PM is just really angry and losing their temper.
I hope I’m wrong. So wrong. I’m just hoping it was really nothing worse than the Myspace thing and that Jay wanted to go back to America because really, he was only in Korea to support his family. However, in my opinion if he really didn’t want to hurt his fans, don’t you think he’d be clever to release a video message to Hottest?
Once again, credit to 2ONEDAY, member Eurice and allkpop.
Any thoughts towards this people?
I think he is going to have to go back to Korea and make an official statement to fans everywhere to support 1:59 PM, because I agree they are no longer the 2PM I knew and loved, especially after that press conference.
They are no longer the brotherly fun-loving guys that they were, they’re backstabbers. I don’t even think JYPE wanted to terminate Jay’s contract, they went to 2PM members and then they concluded they didn’t want Jay in the group.
His members stabbed him in the back worse than Julius Caesar!
Do you think after their success with Heartbeat, they’ve changed? Like they think they can go on without Jay?
I don’t know what to think anymore. I really don’t. I’m going back to J-Pop for the time being! I just don’t wanna see them, I don’t wanna hear about them, I’m just hurt and confused and I need to not see anything about them for a while.
how much power do you honestly think the members have over their contracts? haven’t you realized, considering all those rumors regarding SM Entertainment, that artists have extremely little personal control regarding their careers unless they go solo? (especially under a company as strict as JYPE)
I wish people would just calm down, stop jumping to conclusions and being hateful, and instead insist that we hear from JAY, rather than from a secondhand source.
honestly, where the heck is he?? why do we never hear anything directly from him? he has many ways of going about doing that…like youtube or something
Have you read another translation on this. I tried to read several more transcript. Since there is no video and I could not understand Korean.
http://fortyninepointfivebananas.tumblr.com/post/416760244/on-the-rumors-about-the-fan-meeting-updated-see-extra
I don’t into this fandom since early and glad that way.
So, I’ve been doubting them all along? I’m a bad person. I need to clear this up.
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I think it’s really hard to comment on what is what because we ourselves are just listening/reading what is translated for us.
As far as my opinion goes, I’ve already posted it up. But honestly, I don’t want to say anything more b/c I can’t even verify it myself, you know? I will say though that when translating things, some things are left out or misunderstood because put in English it can come across rude or blunt.
Now that I think about it… I only liked jay. When I saw 10 out of 10, i thought he was the coolest, wile the rest of them were wack. But after seeing them on variety shows and seeing diffrent photoshoot with some members showing off their chest. But I really began to like taecyeon after he ripped his shirt off. Then I realized i liked them for all of the wrong reasons. I think changsung can’t sing and Taecyeon has always been a big FAKE! From the time he did “My Ear Candy” till now, I felt like he was always trying to lead interviews and preformances. Also he was acting like TOP from big bang, he was so un-natural. Even when you look at his past pictures you can tell he never wanted to be a true rapper. But I do like the other members, I can’t believe changsung, I really liked him. This is all too much to handel.
So after reading a couple of posts on this topic (including this one of course) and the comments related to them, I can see why Jay is in America now. There is so much speculation everywhere and even when answers are given straight from the sources they always are completely influenced (by JYPE for example, MAYBE they even issued contractual threats to members) or at least partly scripted, if not more. Nobody can get a clear view of whats completely happening and are pouring out melodramatic BS all the time. Constantly, the media and the fans have seen to be too critical or too “in an artist’s space” that I can see why Jay was tired of it all and left. In America his ever action or word will not be throughly analysed by fans and he will have much more freedom to do what he likes in an environment that he is more comfortable in/with. I do think he (Jay) himself left so suddenly cause he did not like his situation in Korea and think that he still adheres to what he said in his early cyworld post that started all the drama (not literally, but I am saying he adheres in the frustrated manner which is figurative). And by the looks of all the comment, news and posts I have read, I wouldn’t blame Jay for getting out of there and going back to America. That lifestyle is not suitable for everyone. Looking at his latest video postings on youtube, his happiness seems genuine and it looks like he can act how he wants rather than staying in the character image he was attached to in Korea. Naturally all my assumptions are based upon the posts, news and comments I have read and the fact that Jay was raised for sometime in America, which seems to be a more easy going, comfortable and fitting environment for him. Again this is from my point of view and my logical behind Jay’s psychology. I just hope that all parties in the end (2PM members, Jay, fans, media) will learn to live with their decisions.
You are so right about that. I hope Jay can get a career in America – no seriously, I hope that.
i totally don’t agree with all of the stuffs that you guys talking about..although i’m the fan from other country, i’ll always support the 6 members of 2PM..until now i believe that all of the things that happen to Jaebom has the valid reason..we just cannot blame to all of the 6 members..they have no power to against the decision..i don’t want them to lose their job as a singer if they do something to protect jaebom..and i also believe that Jaebom have understood the decision and the act that others 6 members done..
all of you, please i’m begging that please don’t hate 6 members of 2PM..i will always support them until the end even witout Jaebom..i also believe that if you guys cannot show your faith to 2PM, you guys also never and ever show your support and faith to the other Korean Band once they have the same problem or even worst than this..
all of your word or critics about 2PM did not influence me at all..
I LOVE 2PM FOREVER AND EVER..HWAITING 2PM..SARANGHAEYO..
P/S : sorry coz my English is bad..my mistake..(n_n)V
i totally don’t agree with all of the stuffs that you guys talking about..although i’m the fan from other country, i’ll always support the 6 members of 2PM..until now i believe that all of the things that happen to Jaebom has the valid reason..we just cannot blame to all of the 6 members..they have no power to against the decision..i don’t want them to lose their job as a singer if they do something to protect jaebom..and i also believe that Jaebom have understood the decision and the act that others 6 members done..
all of you, please i’m begging that please don’t hate 6 members of 2PM..i will always support them until the end even witout Jaebom..i also believe that if you guys cannot show your faith to 2PM, you guys also never and ever show your support and faith to the other Korean Band once they have the same problem or even worst than this..
all of your word or critics about 2PM did not influence me at all..
I LOVE 2PM FOREVER AND EVER..HWAITING 2PM..SARANGHAEYO..
P/S : sorry coz my English is bad..my mistake..(n_n)V
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even though it’s been several months since jaebeom left, sometimes i still hear/see people say that 2PM is nothing now & that they won’t support them. to me, i think it’s really sad that people would just take out all their anger on the other members. we can’t just jump to conclusions when we don’t even know what jae did. as for the members emotions during the meeting, you can’t blame them. they were angry, confused, & sad. as for taecyeon snickering, that could have been unnecessary, but you never know. maybe it was one of those times where you laugh for no reason, then tears or anger just bursts out. we may never know what really happened, we still need to keep open minds to everything that happens. you never know when the next controversy’s gonna happen.